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Rich + Joined : 18 Jan 2008 Posts : 10

Thanks but I just checked on rediff.com. and it seems the price for them is different i.e. for Reliance Infra (1011Rs) and for Reliance Ind Infra (971Rs) ?

Thanks,
Miththoo

Joined : 29 Feb 2008 Posts : 9

Ok Here what I know

Reliance Infrastructure Ltd - So called Relaiance Energy (bse 500390 )

Reliance Industrial InfraStructure Ltd.
Same nO NAME CHANGE(bse - 523445
)

I hope this help

Ravi

Joined : 25 Jan 2008 Posts : 3

as I am getting married this september i will have sell out all my stocks to make some money...kind of broke these days

i was thinking of selling out half the shares this month and another half before september end....however i would like ur views as to wat is the best time...

this is my portfolio for shares other than those u suggested to be sold on july 30th or at 30% profit(will follow the other thread for those)

asian electrical 41shares@ 123.83
bhel 14shares@ 2076.61
l&t 9 shares@ 3670
compact disc 76shares@ 67.77
sail 20shares@ 286.56
cybermate 788shares@ 6.33
ranbaxy 9shares@ 610.05
ntpc 23 shares@ 212.78
powergrid 258shares@ 52
relpower 27 shares@ ipo price
gmr infra 26 shares@ 186

pls suggest at wat levels i should sell these..

also i have 700 shares of rpl @ 141 which i am planning on holding on

Rich + Joined : 18 Jan 2008 Posts : 10

Hi Anid,
what's your view on the current and near term market condition ?

Thanks,
Miththoo

Joined : 29 Feb 2008 Posts : 9

He is one of kind of person well dealing with E.wave theory.And so for the theory is working fine.The current upmove sensex will be the good selling opportinuites as per him and also he is strongly suggest 12300 must be tested atleast once before we see any proper upmove.Take your own call.I am just cut past his message from this Jul 15th.

Good Luck to you all

KPR

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Dear all,

Almost non stop working for 6 hours produced a document that was beyond my
expectation. Please go through this document which is attached with this
mail. I request you all to make a print out and read twice, especially all
numbers and "Where is the bottom" part of it.

Those who are new to these updates should read following threads as previous
useful presentations. This is a fifth one in the series. This may be my last
publication or second last one, at the most.
4 The Beginning of a final decline-BSE sensex projections on 15-07-08

3 Midway on Correction-BSE sensex Projections-10-05-08

2 BSE sensex projections on 22-03-08

1 BSE Sensex Projections (Forecast or attempted forecast) in coming days
with Elliott's wave principle-Please read carefully and share your views

0 Elliott's wave principle

*The very latest Updates on 15-07-2008*

Wave C has five sub waves

Sub wave 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. 1, 3 and 5 goes down and 2 and 4 goes up. 1, 3, 5
are used to buy on LT and 2 and 4 are used to sell and generate cash.

We are on C1. It has taken us from 17735 to 12670. It has used its five legs
to achieve it.

The next level is 12344/12316/12280/11900/.

As a result of C1 we may see one of the above levels. C1 is not a great
level to buy everything but scripts that have gone down significantly lower
can be bought for LT after careful research.

My first Bull Run estimate within two to three years is 25700 minimum but
definitive figures would be given once we touch to bottom.

The above are only estimated projections as we haven't seen the end point of
C1 yet.

The alternative interpretation is that we may be on C3 if we don't stop
sliding even below 12300 or so. However this wave doesn't look like C3 as C2
was so small and that usually doesn't happen. C2's length should be 38% of
C1 and hence should see 14700 as a minimum level so this wave could be just
an extended 5th leg of C1-5. We didn't achieve C2's normal length and so It
looks like C1-5 still.

*So where is the Bottom? (This is a must read, please)*

- Corrective cycle may see all levels which are seen already up to wave 4.
- Correction ends just above the level of wave 4. (8799)
- Correction generally occurs minimum of 50%, possibly 61.8%
- Correction occurs in three waves, A, B and C
- C wave's length is more or less same as A wave at least or 1.61.8 time
of A wave.
- Our A wave length was 21200 to 14700, hence of 6500 points and that is
30.66% fall from 21200. There fore our C wave length should be minimum of
6500 points from the highest of B wave, which was 17735 or 1.618 times.
- Therefore approximate bottom on C-5 would be at a minimum of 17735
minus 5437, which is 30.66% correction from 17735 and hence at 12298. This
is a minimum target. A level of 12316 is very well known and seen on several
occasion.

If correction occurs of 1.618% then we may see a level of 49.60% correction,
which is 1.618 times of 30.66% correction we have seen as A wave. A 49.60%
correction from 17735 may take us to a total of 8797 points from 17735,
hence to a level of 8938, which was seen as a part of fourth wave end of
8799.

*Therefore a bottom is some where between 12300 and 9000. This would be a
last band of a fall, probably as a part of C3 and C5 towards the end part of
corrective cycle. A level of 9850 has a very strong support and we may just
end above it.*

* *

*If you divide sensex levels in four 3000 points band I recommend buying in
a last 3000 band. Needless to why I strongly advised to sell at 18000,
17000, 16000 and 15000 as well. We may see still one more time 15000 levels,
if we are lucky. *

* *

*1 21000-18000*

*2 18000-15000*

*3 15000-12000*

*4 12000-9000 (I advised to buy in this band which could be a last band but
we may see levels as low as 8900 or so, beware)*

* *

*What to do/What is my strategy?*

C1 offers some buying opportunities. I would be a buyer at these low levels
below 12316 only in selective scripts and probably only 10% or so with
pauses in between. I would buy SIP style. However I would certainly keep
majority of my cash in hand to shop at lower levels later.

To remain as a spectator during a fall of C1 may not be a bad idea at all.

Elliott's analysis doesn't offer day to day movement of index. I think it is
actually an advantage as some argue that is not.

A down move can take up to a month or two. One must keep these remarks in
mind.

I guess because the range is getting narrower and narrower, trading
opportunites are gone. Up moves can be used to sell and generate cash, as
simple as that.

When we may move up, it provides another and probably final decent
opportunity to sell. One mustn't miss that. This will be clearly seen as a
part of C2. As I said, C4 wouldn't be as great as C2 and C5 would be much
deeper than C1, for sure.

Personally, I would buy and wait for further down falls to invest for a long
time.

Technical analysis is not enough to project market movements correctly all
the time hence I also analyse economy. These discussions are within another
thread called Classic battle/Battle Home front. Needless to say that Indian
economy is passing through a rough patch. That coincides perfectly with the
final decline in form of the darkest of all, called C wave.

Any questions, please ask. Healthy criticism is more than welcome.

I wish you all good luck from the bottom of my heart.

Best Regards

Spandan Joshi

*Previous archived notes (For new comers and those who missed previous
sections)*

Basic Rules

1 Wave 2 always retraces less then of 100% of wave 1

2 Wave 3 is never the shortest wave of waves 1, 3 and 5.

3 Wave 4 does not overlap the price territory of wave 1.

4 Generally in a Bull cycle the corrective C wave ends slightly higher than
Wave 4.

Previous Updates and useful Notes with Observations

* *

Corrective waves are as follows.

- Wave A (Has five sub waves and we have seen them all above, they were
sub wave 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
- Wave B (Has three sub waves namely wave A, B and C)*•
Wave C (Has five sub waves –Sub wave 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)*

* * *Previous Forecasts or attempted forecasts (At least we can try….)*

We are on the corrective cycle. This cycle's Bull part started in September
2001. This has lasted for 6 years and 4 months. *This is a correction of a
whole cycle*. That is why we are seeing a massive correction and severe
falls at this movement.

Our BSE sensex ended at 21200 from 2598. So the whole cycle segment length
is from 2598 to 21200.

Lots of people thought this are a same correction as occurred in 2006 and
2007. It is not. I have always maintained my saying and backed up clearly by
showing wave pattern and provide useful guidance.

I have also said to generate cash when we were at the beginning of a
corrective phase. Sensex did reach to highs of 18900 or so. Those who sold
shares and generated cash can use cash to buy now at much lower levels.
Those who have got cash also can use at this time. The investment must be
done carefully and for long term. Benefits will be immense.

*Projections on the base of Elliott's wave principle and Fibonacci's
numbers.*

* *

1 Segment or cycle length = 21200 – 2598 = 18602.

So 0.38 % retracement of 18602 is 7105 points. There fore the index level
may go down as low as 21200 - 7105 = 14095.

*Index may not go down below 14095, if correction stops here.*

* *

*It looks very likely that we will meet a minimum of 14100.*

2 However the other relationships are 50% and 62% Now 50% of the segment
length is 9301 and if we take it out from the top of 21200 then it gives a
figure of 21200 – 9301 = *11899*.

Our economy is slowing down. We have High inflation of 11.89. CRR hiked
twice. Repo rate is hiked as well. Oil is 140+ $.

*Hence 11899 can be a possibility. There is really fair chance of sensex
going down to 12316 first followed by 11900.*

My other calculations suggest that below 11900, some or significant numbers
of FII would start making losses. *There fore 11900 is considered as "The
starting" bottom*.

3 If we calculate 62 % retracement of entire length then it gives us a
figure less than 11899. To be precise the correction is 11533 and if we
subtract from 21200, it gives a figure of *9667.* This looks like a real
possibility.

4 In between Wave A and C, we will see wave B as an up move. Do not fool
yourself at that point thinking that correction is over. This up move may
just come sooner rather than later and may complicate but beware, we will
correct further.

Sensex up moves can take us to 15500/15700/16700 and 16900. From there we
can move up to 17200, 17900 and 18700. I although see a very slim chance of
18700.

The above are Selling Opportunities. One may shuffle the portfolio and
invest in good scripts at a later stage when index goes down below 12316 or
so.

Buying must be gradual and as SIP style.

To recap, 14100 or 11900 or 9700 are the correction cycle end points. (At
the end of C wave) On higher levels, one may sell if gets decent profit.
(Especially those who bought recently at or around 15000) There will be
buying opportunity at a later stage. For buyers keep sensex levels of
14100/13700 & 11900 in mind. For sellers sensex levels of
16900/17200/17900/18300/18700 must be kept in mind. (On B wave)

Time wise we may take up to a year. Although no one can time the market or
find the bottom, I am always keen to try. I expect index to bottom out in
September/October and starts moving up in November.

*Notes On Previous Corrective Cycle (February 14th 2000 to 17th September
2001) (This is a new section and It was really an interesting exercise)*

A peak was seen at 5721 on 14th February 2000 as a fifth wave end.

Corrective cycle took us to 2598 on 17th September, a fall of approximately
55%.

Wave count is as follows.

A1-5141 on 21st March 2000

A3-4657 on 2nd May 2000

A5-4084 on 22nd May 2000

A wave's length = 5721 to 4084 = 1637 points

B-A-4905 on 3rd July 2000

B-B-4186 on 31st July 2000

B-C-4562 on 11th September 2000

Thus length of B wave was 4084 to 4905.

C1-3692

C2-4397

C3-3183

C4-3659

C5-2598 on 17th September. Our Bull Run began.

Thus C wave was of 2307 points, approximately 1.41 times of A wave which was
of a length of 1637 points. (Pretty close to 1.61 times as per Fibonacci
ratio as 2651 points comes at 1.62 times of A wave length as 1637 points)

Best Regards

Spandan Joshi